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GTF Zen Corner

Unread postby Kaspar » 15th August, 2017, 3:49 am

Hello traveller.
Welcome to the Zen Corner!

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This is a thread made for all these who wish to have a closer look at various philosophies, mainly eastern ones. Remember that the key to spiritual and moral growth is open-mindness and acceptance. This thread will work a bit like philosophy classes - with materials being posted and explained, but also as a place for people to look up to when they need spiritual guidance. I'm looking forward to seeing how this turns out :P

[Reveal] Spoiler: FAQ
1. Is this another one of those threads that are supposed to convert me to some weird-ass religion?

A: No, this is not a thread about religion. The Zen Corner is made exclusively for ideas and philosophy, that anyone, even people not following any religion (just as I do), can relate to and take wisdom from.



2. How do I take part in the classes?

A: You are not required to do anything, other than observing! If you spark a discussion about the subject - that's great, but if you just feel like silently reading - it's alright too :)



3. What do I gain from regularly coming to this place?

A: A chance to become more mindful and wise in your life :)


Let me know if you like this idea and would take part if it succeeds to kick off :P
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Re: GTF Zen Corner

Unread postby Kaspar » 15th August, 2017, 5:52 am

I. Introduction to Taoism

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1. The Tao

The first thing that confuses people in Taoism is the definition of Tao. It is hard to grasp, because our mindset has been tuned by most religious dogmas that will tell you the precise list of rules that you need to follow. Taoism on the other hand, completely flips this concept the other way around. It starts with teaching that "The Tao" is indefinable.
This is a very important note, as each person is able to discover it on their own. There are no concrete rules to this or how to achieve it. This is what I personally find beautiful in Taoism - it is a way where you shouldn't look out at others, but instead look inside yourself.




2. First steps to Taoism

PersonalTao.com wrote:A simply way to start learning the definition of Taoism is to start within yourself. Here are three easy starting steps to learning Taoism:

  • Don’t concentrate on the definition of the Tao (this will come later naturally)
  • Understand what Taoism really is. Taoism is more than just a “philosophy” or a “religion”. Taoism should be understood as being: A system of belief, attitudes and practices set towards the service and living to a person’s own nature.
  • The path of understanding Taoism is simply accepting yourself. Live life and discover who you are. Your nature is ever changing and is always the same. Don’t try to resolve the various contradictions in life, instead learn acceptance of your nature.


Taoism teaches a person to live their life, go with their gut feeling and their nature. It is the acceptance of your life and experiencing it. In the end, since it's about self growth, there are no correct ways to do it.




3. Practical Taoism

PersonalTao.com wrote:
  • At times the process of learning Taoism is also a process of healing. Take time to heal (don’t rush and hurt yourself more in the rushing). Taoism teaches to embrace your body with patience.
  • Sometimes you need quietness; it’s ok to take time off to only hear yourself and not the noise of civilization at times.
    People expect and think that the goal of life is perfection… it’s not… you should desire for being good at something and to embrace the various little imperfections… that end up actually being defining characteristics of each of us. The little bits of imperfection we each have are elements of chaos that give each person individuality and distinction! Without our little flaws we wouldn’t be individuals at all! Taoism teaches us how to accept both the best and worse parts of our life.
  • Taoism teaches a person to drop expectations. The more expectations you have for your life, the less you will become. A Taoist lives life without expectations, living in the here and now fully. Any expectation more complicated or relying on something outside of yourself, just sets up the future to not meeting your needs. Dropping expectation is very very important within Taoism.





4. In conclusion:

Learn how to trust your own intuition. Let go of judgments that hold you back. Remove conflict and anger from your relationships. Be kind to yourself and pace your life.

There are a few books that offer guidance into Taoism, I personally have a nice copy of "Tao Te Ching" translated into Polish. There are many good quotes and lessons you can take out of it and I'll try to post some chosen ones here, soon.
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Unread postby Dolly » 15th August, 2017, 3:06 pm

Interesting thread concept. I will forward to reading and learning more about these philosophies. :keke:

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Unread postby boiii » 15th August, 2017, 3:23 pm

I. Introduction to Taoism


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Unread postby Kaspar » 15th August, 2017, 7:06 pm

A quote from "Tao Te Ching"



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24.

He who stands on tiptoe
doesn't stand firm.
He who rushes ahead
doesn't go far.
He who tries to shine
dims his own light.
He who defines himself
can't know who he really is.
He who has power over others
can't empower himself.
He who clings to his work
will create nothing that endures.

If you want to accord with the Tao,
just do your job, then let go.
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Unread postby Kaspar » 16th August, 2017, 3:27 am

A quote from "Tao Te Ching"



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38.

The Master doesn't try to be powerful;
thus he is truly powerful.
The ordinary man keeps reaching for power;
thus he never has enough.

The Master does nothing,
yet he leaves nothing undone.
The ordinary man is always doing things,
yet many more are left to be done.

The kind man does something,
yet something remains undone.
The just man does something,
and leaves many things to be done.
The moral man does something,
and when no one responds
he rolls up his sleeves and uses force.

When the Tao is lost, there is goodness.
When goodness is lost, there is morality.
When morality is lost, there is ritual.
Ritual is the husk of true faith,
the beginning of chaos.

Therefore the Master concerns himself
with the depths and not the surface,
with the fruit and not the flower.
He has no will of his own.
He dwells in reality,
and lets all illusions go.
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Re: GTF Zen Corner

Unread postby Kaspar » 17th August, 2017, 11:23 am

A quote from "Tao Te Ching"




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44.

Fame or integrity: which is more important?
Money or happiness: which is more valuable?
Success of failure: which is more destructive?

If you look to others for fulfillment,
you will never truly be fulfilled.
If your happiness depends on money,
you will never be happy with yourself.

Be content with what you have;
rejoice in the way things are.
When you realize there is nothing lacking,
the whole world belongs to you.
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Unread postby Abdeltyf » 18th August, 2017, 8:56 am

Is this philosophy about neglecting all emotions? What are negative emotions in the first place? How can you survive in this world if you let go of anger or sadness?
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Unread postby Kaspar » 26th August, 2017, 3:44 pm

Abdeltyf wrote:Is this philosophy about neglecting all emotions? What are negative emotions in the first place? How can you survive in this world if you let go of anger or sadness?


I'm terribly sorry for the late reply! The answer is no - it does not make you let go of all emotions and feelings! In fact, I'll post how Taoism refers to being kind and living well with others soon :)
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Re: GTF Zen Corner

Unread postby Kaspar » 26th August, 2017, 8:28 pm

Dalai Lama always said:

Dalai Lama wrote:“My religion is very simple. My religion is kindness.”


And while Dalai Lama is a Buddhist, Taoism can be looked at similarly.

Kindness in life does not really mean just being nice to people. It is to be sincere, follow one's heart, treat everything and everyone in respect, the same respect you treat and show yourself.

Unkind acts are all those meant to take control of something/someone, such us not treating others equally, manipulating, purposefully messing with another person. Kindness can never be truly used to control others. Instead too many leaders (religious and political) use unkind tactics for purposes of control. Hence, you find fear, conflict, forced conversion, segregation and so many other unkind tactics to force others to follow doctrine or laws. Purposeful using of it destroys the balance.
This is why applying kindness is such a difficult process to grasp.

Kindness requires balanced actions.
To always be perfectly nice is as unbalanced as being always terrible!

There is a commonly accepted golden rule that says:

"Do unto others as you do unto yourself."

It is severely flawed deep down though. Many people are so focused on giving their kindness outwards, that they forget to be kind to themselves! The rule should look like this:

"Do unto others as you do unto yourself.
Do unto yourself as you do unto others."

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Re: GTF Zen Corner

Unread postby Kaspar » 12th September, 2017, 12:33 pm

A quote from "Tao Te Ching"




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27.

A good traveler has no fixed plans
and is not intent upon arriving.
A good artist lets his intuition
lead him wherever it wants.
A good scientist has freed himself of concepts
and keeps his mind open to what is.

Thus the Master is available to all people
and doesn't reject anyone.
He is ready to use all situations
and doesn't waste anything.
This is called embodying the light.

What is a good man but a bad man's teacher?
What is a bad man but a good man's job?
If you don't understand this, you will get lost,
however intelligent you are.
It is the great secret.

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