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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Cobalt » 1st March, 2018, 4:15 pm

Quinn wrote:Gavin you townread the most open wolfy players this game and then tunneled on me after they flipped 3p

Don’t pat yourself on the back too hard, you might get sore.

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Petre » 1st March, 2018, 4:27 pm

My pockets were getting heavy anyway.

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:30 pm

Town Wins - Mafia Has Conceded and all 3P are Dead!


Good work town, you managed to win the game being comprised of, largely, new mafia players. In future games, I would advise you that, while Cobalt is definitely more than experienced, until you know if he is on your team, it is best to not follow blindly and give into his pressure. I think that it's important to formulate and share your own opinion on the game - sometimes a fresh mind is what gets the job done. Quinn and Him led most of the players around like a showdog, and while Cobalt did turn out to be town, it can be easy to become attached and manipulated and eventually end up saving an adversary inadvertently. Back to the game though, town - you used your abilities pretty effectively, protecting the core players and communicating well. Good work for not mass claiming until the coast was clear, it saved you, potentially, from losing 2 from zim, 3 from vicky, 1 from night kill, and 1 from vig = 7 players in one night. :clap3:

I think the biggest problem non-town faced was the inability for EITHER enforcer to correctly use their active. While this is not a drag on either of them, as noted in the early thread, the combo made for a town-killing machine. Miguel didn't live long, and Lochlan couldn't quite nail all 3 guesses any of the times. This swung the game back to town when, as you all know, people started claiming. This was an entirely winnable game from a scum or 3p perspective early on, and, actually, very few protective roles were used N1-N2, so town was VERY vulnerable.


Deaths:
Quinn has Conceded! He was...

[Reveal] Spoiler: F is for Fiend
Denzel Crocker

Your goals this game are:
-Submit a Lynch Vote during the day phase
-Survive each phase
-Find and lynch all Town and 3rd Party Characters
-Use your nightly kill vote, read and understand that your ability can be used to advise teammates or give good information and guidance to them or cause turmoil among the town

You win when the number of mafia are equal to or more than the number of town + 3p combined
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Petre has Conceded! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Big Girls Don't Cry
Doodle Daddy

Your goals this game are:
Petre - Your goals this game are:
-Submit a Lynch Vote during the day phase
-Survive each phase
-Find and lynch all Town and 3rd Party Characters
-Use your nightly kill vote, read and understand that your ability can be used to take over a dead teammate’s role

You win when the number of mafia are equal to or more than the number of town + 3p combined
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Scum's Message to Town
[Reveal] Spoiler: Sympathy Concession
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Survivors:
Gavin has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Owner of the Dimmesdale Dimmadome
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PKR has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Come one, Vamanos!
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Cobalt has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Hotter than a Catfish in a Skillet
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Polak has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Best Day Ever!
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Squipel has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: The Man Who Broke Wind
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Sokol has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Aaah! That book is terrifying, there are words in it!
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Adyuto has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: Shut up and Kiss me, will you?
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Kaspar has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: For Science!
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Lightbringer has Survived! He was...
[Reveal] Spoiler: His Mind is an Enigma
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Players:
1. Calcifer Plankton - Godfather (Killed Day One)
2. Squipel - Aang - Airbender: Survived!
3. Sokol - Cosmo - Fairy Godfather: Survived!
4. Polak - Spongebob - Lover: Survived!
5. Cobalt - Sandy Cheeks - Vigilante: Survived!
6. PokemonKidRyan - Dora The Explorer - Investigator: Survived!

7. Buckettech Master Splinter - Rogue (Lynched Day Three)
8. Quinn Denzel Crocker - Recruit (Conceded Day 4)
9. Gavin - Doug Dimmadome - Mayor: Survived!
10. Petre Doodle-Daddy (Conceded Day 4)
11. Kindwolf Danny Phantom - Ancestor (Killed Night Two)
12. Lochlan Invader Zim - Alien (Left Earth Night Three)
13. Kessler Tommy Pickles - Baby (Modkilled Night Two)
14. Greenfield Flying Dutchman - Avenger (Lynched Day Two)
15. Adyuto - Wanda - Medic: Survived!
16. McMiggas Vicky - Enforcer (Shot Night One)
17. Kaspar - Jimmy Neutron - Tracker: Survived!
18. Sig Swiper - Strongman (Lynched Day One)
19. Joshe Squidward - Saboteur (Killed Night Two)
20. Lightbringer Patrick - Bodyguard/Lover (Killed Night One) (Revived Day 3) Survived!

Breakdown of Ranks (In no particular order within each rank):
S - Outstanding: Cobalt
A - Exceptional: Quinn, Petre, Adyuto
B - Strong Performance: Calcifer, Kaspar, PKR, Kind, Loch, Gavin

I also ran into a few problems/issues that were entirely my fault, I will address these in depth soon, but they include:
-Telling Zim his results before EoN3
-Giving fake roles abilities that cannot be counter claimed (I thought they needed abilities)
-Taking the basic structure of my approved format and making some changes
-Not clarifying GF Greencheck (Few knew it was a thing)
-Quoting people in the thread when I should be limiting my unnecessary interactions

None of these were particularly game changing on a massive scale in my opinion. However, they are something that I need to address in the future and correct to avoid confusion and mess.
If you would like to leave feedback, I made a goodle form where you can evaluate me in various categories and provide any questions, comments, or clarification.
You can find said form here (If everyone could fill that out, it would be great <3 ): https://goo.gl/forms/2vTCfmh89YjgeY6D3

For those that got an S or A rank:
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If you have questions about what happened at any point, Ask Away!!!
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Kaspar » 1st March, 2018, 4:31 pm

Yay good job everyone! :heart:


Seriously though, Peter deserves some recognition, you played very well, seemed town all the way until the end for me ;)
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:31 pm

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Lightbringer » 1st March, 2018, 4:32 pm

Lol it was Quinn who left the note on my corpse.
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:34 pm

Lightbringer wrote:Lol it was Quinn who left the note on my corpse.

Yup :P
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Calcifer » 1st March, 2018, 4:35 pm

I CAN FINALLY TALK AGAIN

MY GOD

Following this thread for like 50 pages, unable to like or comment is mildly hellish.

I'm actually real proud of my scum team. They survived so much longer than I expected, and oh my god Kevin. I will never forgive you.
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Petre » 1st March, 2018, 4:38 pm

Kaspar wrote:Yay good job everyone! :heart:


Seriously though, Peter deserves some recognition, you played very well, seemed town all the way until the end for me ;)

It was seriously gif meta that carried me lol.

and throwing all my teammates under the bus but that's not important.
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Kind Wolf » 1st March, 2018, 4:41 pm

Pretty happy that I noticed that Loch was either scum/3P, as well as Green.

And good job Quinn. You had me pocketed there.
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Gavin » 1st March, 2018, 4:45 pm

thanks bren for this fun game! and a special thanks to my scumbuddies dig loch and tyler x

and now i will forget this game ever happened (rank b come onnnn...)
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Gavin » 1st March, 2018, 4:45 pm

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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:47 pm

Gavin wrote:thanks bren for this fun game! and a special thanks to my scumbuddies dig loch and tyler x

and now i will forget this game ever happened (rank b come onnnn...)

Gavin, the reason you got bumped from an A to a B is because you, inadvertently or not, caused a lot of turmoil for your teammates (including those basically claimed and/or townfirmed) Getting a B is still good though :)
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:49 pm

Thread title is updated :)
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Unread postby CRUSTY SEA MILF » 1st March, 2018, 4:52 pm

I also want to thank all the players for participating!
You are what makes the experience truly fun for others, not me :D
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Unread postby Cobalt » 1st March, 2018, 5:09 pm

So there are several reasons why I refused to re-evaluate Quinn, though I maintain that I would have eventually.

Firstly being Lochlan and Bucket’s push onto Quinn. As 3P, it was against their win condition to push scum when scum was already at a disadvantage, so I assumed mechanically that Quinn was town. That, and I believed one or both of Lochlan and Bucket to be scum. When they both flipped 3P, there was more room to reevaluate, but I didn’t quite get there before everything was outed.

Secondly, the claims. Brennan has acknowledged this already, but he gave every individual scum member a cover role card that had a town ability on it that was not in the game. What this does is created a COMPLETELY safe false claim for mafia that town has no reason to suspect might be false.

Cover roles are supposed to be for flavor only - so that when everyone is claiming characters, the mafia can claim a good guy character to blend in. But fake claims like that are often claimed as roleless civilian, because cover role cards are not supposed to have abilities. By giving Quinn a bulletproof to claim when there’s no other town bulletproof in the game, I assumed that claim was correct simply mechanically alone. That and the fact that Quinn and I normally play closely together gave me more reason to solidify that read and not look back unless necessary.

Gavin - I apologize for getting aggressive, but you do realize you hard-aligned yourself with third party, right? And if they were wrong on Quinn you’d have been playing yourself directly into the hands of a team that isn’t yours. Aligning with 3P is ALWAYS bad to do as town and when Lochlan was already difficult to overpower from my perspective, having a locked confirmed townie also pushing his agenda backed me into a corner and made me feel like I had to fight my way out. You get that?

Other mechanical things that went wrong:

Gavin’s extra votes NEVER should have shown up in vote counts posted by the mod. Not only does it host confirm that Gavin was telling the truth about his claim and unbalance in favor of town as a result, but it also gives one person deciding power in day phases because they have the most votes. Also he should not ALWAYS have had triple voting powers because that’s broken as fuck.
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [Day 4]

Unread postby Quinn » 1st March, 2018, 5:12 pm

Kind Wolf wrote:Pretty happy that I noticed that Loch was either scum/3P, as well as Green.

And good job Quinn. You had me pocketed there.


Thank you! The moment I’d taken notice of you and PKR, I knew we had some skilled unfamiliars on the roster that would either need to die or be pocketed. I do sincerely think you’re both fantastic players, and I look forward to playing with you again sometime ❤️
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Re: GTF Mafia XXXIII EDITION: CARTOON CHAOS [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]

Unread postby Cobalt » 1st March, 2018, 5:14 pm

Anyway, I believe I played well regardless of the Quinn read. It was my first time in a vigilante role on any mafia site and I had 100% accuracy with my shots and attempted shots - Miguel on night 1, and I attempted Lochlan on night 2 and then switched my target to BucketTech but he stole my bullet. I also saw through Sig’s aggressiveness day one as not his normal controversial townie self.

Great job to Quinn and Petre, and Lochlan you were an absolute force to be reckoned with and I DREADED fighting you because you made it so fucking difficult for me.
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