New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

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Do you agree with the decision to make Sokol a moderator?

Poll ended at 12th January, 2018, 12:58 pm

Yes
26
74%
No
9
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Total votes : 35

Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Dolly » 7th January, 2018, 4:03 pm

Keep it up and in a couple months you should be reconsidered.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Flower » 7th January, 2018, 4:04 pm

Oh, the irony.

Dear Ms. "I always wanted to be a moderator "; I didn't cast my vote just because he's cute. It was a half-joke. I had a good impression about him, so I cast my vote "yes". Him being cute is the cherry on top as I explained in my other post.

I try to be optimistic about things, but you can say "he's not online much and we can't trust him" and have prejudice. That is also how democracy works.

I just want to say that before criticizing, you should know that everyone is different. They are not Cobalt or Tim. I believe that they deserve a chance.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Vortex » 7th January, 2018, 4:09 pm

but for me it was 100% him being cute
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 4:12 pm

I mean, if you look at Sokol's discord activity he's sent 74 pages worth of messages in the last week, vs. Dolly's 63 vs. my 62 vs. Kaspar's 49. He is more active than the two most active moderators, and yourself.

Looking at Sokol's discord activity since the end of summer (shortly after the creation of Discord), he has sent 732 pages worth of messages vs. Dolly's 677 vs. my 612 vs. Kaspar's 597.

He is currently more active than the two most active moderators, and another highly active member, and has always been more active than this group of people.

What's the problem?
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Sokol » 7th January, 2018, 4:17 pm

JonathanT88 wrote:I mean, if you look at Sokol's discord activity he's sent 74 pages worth of messages in the last week, vs. Dolly's 63 vs. my 62 vs. Kaspar's 49. He is more active than the two most active moderators, and yourself.

Looking at Sokol's discord activity since the end of summer (shortly after the creation of Discord), he has sent 732 pages worth of messages vs. Dolly's 677 vs. my 612 vs. Kaspar's 597.

He is currently more active than the two most active moderators, and another highly active member, and has always been more active than this group of people.

What's the problem?

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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 4:20 pm

Furthermore:

In the past 5 months (since he joined) he has made 644 forum posts, at an average rate of 32 posts per week. That's 12% of my total forum posts in 9% of the time, meaning he's posting at a higher average rate than me DESPITE the forum being much more active when I joined.

He has posted 6.4% of the posts Jacketh has in 7.5% of the time (meaning they're almost posting at the exact same rate), and has posted 19% of the posts Dolly has in just 17% of the time (making him, on average, more active).
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Jacketh » 7th January, 2018, 4:28 pm

Absolutely. The Staff needs a couple of fresh faces with new ideas & and members representing the "newer" generation of members. Sokol has always seemed very reasonable and enthusiastic, and, I'm confident that he wants to be staff for the right reasons.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Quinn » 7th January, 2018, 4:57 pm

Sokol has been nothing but kind and helpful to me in the relatively short time I’ve been back to the forum. Not knowing as much about this new generation of users, he gives me a lot of hope.

I can only imagine he would be more helpful with an extension of permissions. I support this wholeheartedly.

Good luck, Sokol.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Sokol » 7th January, 2018, 5:59 pm

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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 7th January, 2018, 6:24 pm

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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 7th January, 2018, 6:27 pm

JonathanT88 wrote:Secondly, we are not, in effect, adding two staff members, but removing one. The CA position is being abolished and Jesse is standing down ( :rip: ) with that.

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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 6:58 pm

TheBrunswickian wrote:
JonathanT88 wrote:Secondly, we are not, in effect, adding two staff members, but removing one. The CA position is being abolished and Jesse is standing down ( :rip: ) with that.



In Memoriam: Jesse's relevance.

Also I felt like such a nasty American capitalist when I said "standing down." Because let's be honest, it was slightly more of a firing than that implies.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Kaspar » 7th January, 2018, 7:01 pm

Omg Jon, this statistical data you pulled out is so awesome :clap3:
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 7:17 pm

Kaspar wrote:Omg Jon, this statistical data you pulled out is so awesome :clap3:


It's easy to find. Just seach in Discord: "from: [username] after: [insert date]" and it'll give you all the messages a specific user has sent since the specified date (though you can also use "before.") If you want to see ALL the photos a user has ever posted in the selfies channel, use "from: [username] in: #selfies has: img." It's my favourite thing about Discord.

You may now compare your activity to all those around you (and scroll through hot users' selfies).
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby TheBrunswickian » 7th January, 2018, 7:35 pm

JonathanT88 wrote:
TheBrunswickian wrote:
JonathanT88 wrote:Secondly, we are not, in effect, adding two staff members, but removing one. The CA position is being abolished and Jesse is standing down ( :rip: ) with that.



In Memoriam: Jesse's relevance.

Also I felt like such a nasty American capitalist when I said "standing down." Because let's be honest, it was slightly more of a firing than that implies.

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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 7:37 pm

TheBrunswickian wrote:There was a divisional restructuring and my position was disbanded. If you're going to go full corporatist, do it right


:lol:

Well can I apologise for my uncorporate language with an even less corporate usertitle?
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Dolly » 7th January, 2018, 8:07 pm

More than 27% of his posts are in the Games & Competitions sub-forum, so it is fair to say that this is a case of quantity versus quality. Furthermore, I don’t think Discord pages can be used for judgement as they can very easily be expanded upon by splitting sentences. Thus, it is hardly an accurate measure activity. If I sent “omg haha,” and another person sent “omg” and “haha,” that doubles Discord message count. The reality is that he has been inactive and multiple other dissenting members have pointed this out.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby JonathanT88 » 7th January, 2018, 8:18 pm

Dolly wrote:dissenting members


:rofl2:

You make it sound so glamorous.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Dolly » 7th January, 2018, 8:23 pm

Flower wrote:I alI try to be optimistic about things, but you can say "he's not online much and we can't trust him" and have prejudice.

I just want to say that before criticizing, you should know that everyone is different. They are not Cobalt or Tim. I believe that they deserve a chance.


I don’t think it’s wise to appoint someone with the idea that we should give everyone a chance. I would agree if this was promoting him to Community Ambassador, a position he currently holds, which is just under moderator, hierarchically. Giving him a role that is almost impossible to be removed from is wrong when his activity levels do not meet the demands I believe are needed.

Sure, he is nice and has been relatively active in the one week you’ve been here, but I’m not convinced he has gone above-and-beyond in his current position. I really do like Sokol, so I’m not on some anti-Sokol rampage.
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Re: New Moderator Confirmation Poll - Sokol

Unread postby Flower » 7th January, 2018, 8:35 pm

"If you really like" Sokol, why don't you believe that he can be a good moderator? I don't know you but I trust the "people i like" and encourage them to be better.

Even though he explained why he was inactive, you still try to ignore it. Why? That looks like a "passive agressive anti-sokol rampage" to me.
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